If 1914 was, and still is, so reliable for JW's, what was the point of Rutherford concocting 1925, or Freddie concocting 1975, both predictions completely unrelated to any chronology having to do with the Gentile Times. Weren't they, by their actions, implying: "we don't trust your 1914 prophecy Jehovah" or simply put "we don't believe you Jehovah"
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Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!
by Londo111 intherefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.
if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.
then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.
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Being an Atheist Is Bad For Your Health
by Space Madness ini stopped believing in god in july 2013. in the first 3 months or so i felt liberated and relieved that i can live my life anyway i wanted without worrying about an invisible being watching my every move.
i also felt slightly superior that i was able to figure out that god isn't real while the majority of mankind continued to be fooled.
atfer the feelings of excitment statrted to wear off, i started to become more depressed and empty.
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never a jw
You sound like the kind of guy who needs religion to cope. Reality is not good for you.
As many others have mentioned, it seems that your data is not reliable. It seems that you are using correlation, not causation, as a way to infer that atheists are more depressed, angry and suicidal than religious people. Maybe, maybe not. Your data definitely provides no help to get a clear answer. I would question the sources of the study and their methods.
Overall, non-religious people are making greater contributions to advance our knowledge of science so we can overcome the challenges facing human kind (population, limited resources, contamination, diseases, etc). In this regard religious people, especially those fundamentalists and cultic groups, are just a drag.
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New Watchtower Article: "Morals Without God?"
by cognisonance in...or rather what you wouldn't find in a watchtower .
morals without god (new york times article).
can we envision a world without god?
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never a jw
Man created God, God created morals. Therefore man created morals through God. The man who first thought of God as a way to create morality to control other people deserves a great deal of credit. Cheapest and most effective way to lead and control.
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BOE Letter: We want to suck three hours out of your life
by pixel into all congregations in the united states branch territory re: branch visit in november 2014 .
dear brothers: .
on february 11, 2014, the bethel family was excited to learn that a branch visit is sched- uled for the united states.
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never a jw
Rebel 8,
Carl Sagan seemed to disagree with you regarding the GB skills
Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.
But not always. One prominent American religion [Jehovah's Witnesses, of course] confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.
They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.
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Why I feel that worshiping "God" is a waste of time...
by CaptainSchmideo inhave you ever had a so-called friend who never seemed to be around when you really needed his active, participatory help, but was always good enough to show up after the fact, to lend you his "support" after the event?.
maybe he failed to show up when you needed to move furniture.
did he show up afterward, and praise you for the ability to get it done without his help?
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never a jw
There's something awesome about life, the macrocosmos, the microcosmos, consciousness. There are lots of mysteries that we will uncover in the future, but many that we will not. What seems quite obvious though, God or no God, there's no divine force intervening in human affairs. And that's the way I like it.
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The future of the meetings?
by Kool Jo ini bumped into this website....really interesting:.
you however need a pw to access....if this was more popular, i could see khall attendance dropping, as we know, most people simple go just to appease others: .
http://www.livekingdomhall.com/.
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never a jw
Well, have you considered that it is in the best interest of the leaders to reduce the use of Kingdom Halls. Since they are no longer needed, they can sell them for a profit, a big profit because someone else bought it and maintained it. This move may be the exit plan of thescmmers at the top. Sooner or later all pyramid scams have to end. "The time is at hand"
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Your Most DREADED Dub Word
by GetBusyLiving ini wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.
please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.
mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).
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the privilege to... clean toilets
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Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide
by wannabefree inthis is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.
of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.
god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.
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never a jw
Perry: "On the other hand if you accept the dictionary's definition of the word God, then likewise you cannot criticize God because you acknowledge his perfection, which would include his perfect judgments, and his perfect right to display his mercies and judgments according to his purposes, not yours"
What the dictionary has to say about God are not necessarily God's qualities. He never let us know HIS qualities. Ever since we moved into a scientific age, or at least tried to replace superstition by more natural and rational explanations to phenomena, GOD no longer performs miracles, or talk to humans. Why would that be? i am sure you can come with an explanation, Christians alway have an answer for everything, and they don't seem to care how contradictory those various answers are.
GOD's "qualities" are as inconsistent as the human minds which created him.
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I was a window washet...
by new hope and happiness inthete are a lot of derocatory comments sbout witnesses and cleaning windows.
as a former window cleaner i can say:-.
a. i started my self employment at 17.. b. i built the round with my own initiative.. c. i was soon making 4 times the average hourly wage.. d. i was afraid of heights, but as the round grew i employed 2 people.. e. it exspanded to gardening painting and decorating ect, ect,.
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never a jw
Window washing is great as a source of income, like any other job, if you are dedicated and disciplined with your expenses. Plenty of manual laborers are great examples of "rags to riches". However, money alone may not provide the critical thinking skills to avoid being pulled into cults such as those of the JW's and mormons. Unfairly, maybe, but that is what's is implied when people refer to JW's as window washers, they are gullible. Likely, they ended up in a manual labor job because they couldn't, or didn't want to, or were not allowed to get higher education. This fact makes them easy prey of cult's leaders.
Bottom line: many cults with silly doctrines and beliefs attract manual laborers much more than they attract doctors or lawyers.
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RETIREMENT HOMES AND COMPANY BY AND FOR JEHOVAH WITNESSES???
by ADJUSTMENTS injust did some googling on jws and found some info i've never heard of before... this rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper... links to retirement homes and company!!!
have any of you heard of this before?.
http://touch.mcall.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79180330/.
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never a jw
Retirement homes for JW's is stupid. We are in the final days. What's the point?